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Sandra Bernhard reflects on 'sad' breakdown of her relationship with former bestie Madonna after mysterious falling-out

Sandra Bernhard confessed that 'it really makes me sad' that she and Madonna were unable to 'maintain' their friendship.

The pop star and the comedian became famously close gal pals in the s when they were both acting onstage in New York City.

In a TV moment that became an instant classic, Madonna and Sandra wore matching outfits and flirted with each other on Late Night With David Letterman in

However, by , their close bond had mysteriously evaporated - and rumors have been flying ever since as to the reason.

Now Sandra has reflected wistfully about her 'perfect time' with Madonna, on an episode of Modern Family star Jesse Tyler Ferguson's podcast Dinner's On Me.

Sandra Bernhard confessed that 'it really makes me sad' that she and Madonna were unable to 'maintain' their friendship; pictured in on Late Night With David Letterman

They first struck up their friendship in when Madonna was starring in David Mamet's play Speed The Plow on Broadway.

Meanwhile Sandra was performing her off-Broadway one-woman show Without You I'm Nothing, which she turned into a movie shortly thereafter.

Now, more than three decades after their friendship fell apart, Sandra remarked that she 'would be fine' running into Madonna again now.

'But I mean, I don't know what it would be, you know?

Sandra bernhard and madonna on letterman The iconic comedian spoke to Jesse Tyler Ferguson about '80s New York, her Letterman appearances, and the painful dissolution of her friendship with the Queen of Pop. Sandra Bernhard is opening up about her legendary friendship with Madonna — and its unfortunate demise. The comedian, actress, and singer brought her her trademark wit and unpredictability to the latest episode of Jesse Tyler Ferguson 's podcast Dinner's On Me , rollicking between topics as disparate as brunch, earwax vacuuming, and her time working with Jerry Lewis on The King of Comedy. When it came to the subject of Bernhard's string of appearances on Late Night With David Letterman in the s, her most infamous couch companion naturally came up. Bernhard responded that "It would be fine," adding, "I hate getting nostalgic and caught up on that time because it was such, like, the perfect time.

I mean, and I hate getting nostalgic and caught up in, you know, that time, because it was such like the perfect time,' she said, looking back on her life and career in the late s, with frequent Letterman appearances and her successful stage show.

'So there are times when I'm like - it really makes me sad that we couldn't maintain our friendship,' she said, adding cryptically: 'I mean, I could have.' 

Sandra's close friend, fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi, previously shared his sensational theory that a love triangle had caused her to fall out with Madonna.

Isaac alleged that Sandra had been dating the buzzy nightclub owner Ingrid Casares, with whom Madonna then conducted an 'affair.'

'I wasn't sure what Madonna was up to with Sandra,' he said on the Hot Takes & Deep Dives podcast.

'I know that Madonna is pansexualand I guess I couldn't tell what was going on between them. I couldn't tell if they were having an affair or whether Madonna was after Sandra's girlfriend, who was beautiful, this girl called Ingrid.'

Now Sandra has reflected wistfully about her 'perfect time' with Madonna, on an episode of Modern Family star Jesse Tyler Ferguson's podcast Dinner's On Me; pictured

The pop star and the comedian became famously close gal pals in the s when they were both acting onstage in New York City; pictured at the Brooklyn Academy Of Music in  

In a TV moment that became an instant classic, Madonna and Sandra wore matching outfits and flirted with each other on Late Night With David Letterman in

However, by , their close bond had mysteriously evaporated - and rumors have been flying ever since as to the reason; pictured  

Ingrid became a sizzling media figure in the s, wafting about amid a flurry of celebrity friends including Donald Trump and Tommy Mottola.

She once claimed that Sandra and Madonna feuded because Sandra was not asked to be one of the models in Madonna's Sex book.

Isaac, however, disputed Ingrid's version of events, saying: 'The truth is Sandra was betrayed because Madonna had an affair with Ingrid.' 

He insisted Sandra 'couldn't care less' about the Sex book and never expressed any desire to be one of the models included in the project.

'None of us really thought much of that book,' said Isaac pointedly.

'That book was, you know, a little bit forced, a little bit contrived.' 

Now, more than three decades after their friendship fell apart, Sandra remarked that she 'would be fine' running into Madonna again now; pictured  

Sandra's close friend, fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi, has sensationally claimed she and Madonna had an alleged love rivalry over Ingrid Casares; Ingrid and Sandra pictured in

When Sandra herself went on the same podcast a year earlier, she was vaguer about the end of her friendship with Madonna - although she hinted that the media scrutiny involved had become a strain on her.

'I didn't really like that level of visibility and having to work it constantly,' said the Roseanne actress.

Sandra bernhard and madonna Sandra Bernhard is reflecting on what could have been, had she remained in touch with Madonna. On Tuesday, July 30, the Roseanne alum, 69, opened up about her friendship with the iconic singer and how she still thinks about their falling out during an appearance on Jesse Tyler Ferguson 's Dinner's On Me podcast. When Ferguson brought up Bernhard's "loyal" and "sensitive" nature, he said that their "separation of friendship" must have been "a little bit harder" on her than Madonna, but asked if the duo would be "fine" if they were to reunite. The late '80s when I was doing my one-woman show here in New York, and I was friends with her and doing Letterman all the time. I mean, everything was

'We all as performers work it to a certain degree, but I'm a very improvisational person, on stage and in my life, and I don't like being tied down in having to be a certain way for my image.'

Sandra added: 'What I tried to impart in our friendship is: "I'm really your friend, I'm not just somebody that's passing through." 

She reflected: 'And I guess for a while we had a real friendship, but it's hard for somebody like her.

She doesn't really want somebody around who reflects too much of who she is. Therefore, her relationships just don't last.'

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